Studio Drummer – Another interesting Jeff Porcaro Observation

June 14, 2014

Like I mentioned in the previous post, our shows with Toto some years ago, were very interesting and very informative from a drummer’s perspective.

After our set I stood directly behind the staging and I could see through the scrim at the back of the stage.  I was standing on the floor of the theatre and the staging was higher so I was basically looking at the back of Jeff’s kit, at his foot level.

He was heel up on his bass drum but his hi hat foot was heel down and totally still.  In other words it was not involved in keeping time.  It was controlling the tension on the hat cymbals.  He would of course deftly adjust the tension in the lope of his groove, creating his signature magic of great groove playing.  When he would go to the ride then of course he’d be doing foot hat patterns along with the ride but I really took notice of the fact that when he was playing the hat with sticks he was very still with the hh foot.

This made perfect sense since his recordings always have a beautiful hi hat texture, a very consistent texture.  Not too tight in general, not too loose.  He knew how to get the best sonic texture and musicality out of the hi hats.  It was an instrument unto itself.  Drummers too often don’t think in those terms.

Another top individual in the music industry, this time a producer, being Mutt Lange (Def Leopard, Shania Twain) has been known to tell drummers (which shall remain nameless)  that they don’t play individual instruments/components very well.   This is exactly what he’s talking about.  A component and a very important part of the studio drumming is hi hat and hi hat texture and feel.  It’s an ‘inner, internal component’ of playing great studio drums.  Separate yet inclusive in the making of a great sounding and consistent groove.

Next time you are recorded solo the hi hat and listen to it.  Does it consist of static and inconsistent transients that just slosh around?  Are you choking the tone of the hats or stomping on the foot pedal when it should be a set tension?   Or is it compelling,.. such as if you were just playing the hat by itself and trying to make it convincing, such as in an intro?

Some would say the Devil is in the details, well perhaps God is in the details…

 

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Studio Drummer – A Jeff Porcaro Lesson

June 9, 2014

I had the opportunity years ago to meet Jeff Porcaro on a Toto show we were backing up.  And let me say straight out, that this is not a self-stroke in any sense… It was a lesson to me.
A lesson in person-hood.
We were backing up Toto for a couple of shows…we met after our set in a quiet dressing room and he was as clear and real a human as a human could be.  No hype, no bullshit at all.

We got talking and I was struck by some key things about him.  He had a true humility and deference about him.. but at the same time he had  a supreme quiet confidence about his truly massive strengths.  Yet intuitively, he still had that honest self defacing attitude about what he perceived to be his weaknesses. “Ah my hands are weak man!” .. he said to me.  And went on!

It was a bit weird to listen to because it was him…all the hits he’d played on that I’d grown up with and the beautiful deft subtleties (and strength of hands) of his playing.  And yet he was more than happy to share the foibles LOL!

Like I said though, it was like… dude… ‘you played on much of the soundtrack of my life!  There was a real disconnect there for me that I still understand to this day.

Yet at the same time he was genuinely complimentary and interested in my thoughts.. (you can spot the fakers.)   He liked my playing and gave me the ultimate whole hearted compliment I’ve ever had as a player.  Coming from him it still is very special.

the overall thing that struck me is this.

The people that contribute most to the art or instrument can often be the most humble of people.  They would rather listen to another player and dig them ( and as a result glean from them).  I read many an article of Jeff’s where he would defer anything he did to another great drummer, such as the Rosanna groove to Bernard Purdie.  ‘ I borrowed this from this guy, this from that guy.’

Like another musical hero once said… “The more you do know about music, the more you realize you don’t know anything”.

There’s a good lesson in that.

Jeff was a great studio drummer and by all reports a very cool human too.. Listen to his Steely Dan tracks, Toto or anything Jay Graydon produced, Dire Straits, Michael Jackson, etc… on and on…he played on hundreds of hits.

 

 

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Studio Drummer – Somehow We Got An Album Out Of This Mess

June 5, 2014

This track was recorded in this arcane nightmarish fashion, check it out:

This producer (who shall remain nameless) insisted that we trigger drum sounds off of real drums.  Back then the triggering had a lot of latency and was inconsistent and problematic to say the least. That was the first massive distraction when trying to play…but it gets way better!

He wanted no toms on the initial bed.  Toms were to be fully produced and overdubbed later.  So he wanted groove, kick, snare, hat and cymbals.  So I had to play and imagine (or should I say over-think) where I would play a tom fill and what that would be.  Zero spontaneity!  He also said that I couldn’t use stand-in toms such as Simmons toms that were not producing any sound, just stand-ins so it would feel a bit more natural.  The added problem?

We were recording bass and drums as a bed  track, together, on the whole album.

Real time scenario;

I would come to the end of a phrase and try not to over-think the fact that I had no toms and I would leave a gap in the bed performance knowing that we’d be doing a tom overdub in that spot.

So get this,… I would be playing and hoping that the triggers were working properly going to the Linn drum (young folks do your homework lol) and when I’d come to the end of an 8 bar section for example I’d stop for 2-3 beats to accommodate the ‘phantom tom overdub’ yet to be, but one problem…

The bass player is playing with me live, doing a big budget session and of course there’s pressure there.  He hears me stop, ..completely stop at the end of the 8 bar section and thinks that I’ve made a mistake so he’s thrown so he stops.  After a while he understands that I’m stopping because I’m leaving space for a tom overdub but that still is a massive distraction to him as the session goes on, trying to lay down a solid good feeling track!

I swear to God that I can’t believe that we got anything that was usable and this was way before digital editing.  It still had to groove.  This was going down to 2 inch tape.  So it had to be believable.  But you couldn’t punch in on 2 inch tape unless you had a large break in the music, so it was on!  It’s a truly different world now a days.  Those kind of extreme pressure days are mostly over but they were great experience and trial by fire.

We had to work through the pressure and the ridiculous impediments put on us by this producer,.. but still try to groove and do something that had attitude and merit.

How is that for an old school recording nightmare?

 

All 100% true.  Just another crazy experience in the studio…  Ocean Sound, Vancouver

 

 

 

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